Infringement of Copyright Notice - 'Two Worlds' - Page 34

beingscammed · #**496** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 05:12 AM

Good morning all,
Still need letter templates for letters to ICO, SRA and ISP.
If people have suggestions, or want to send in what they used, please do so we can get something together for others to use.

rancidpunk · #**497** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 11:44 AM

Couple of questions;
What country were logistep spying on UK internet users from when they obtained the "evidence"?
Who asked them to do it, Davenport Lyons, Reality Pump or were they just spying on people in another country on the chance that they could sell the info at a later date to an unscrupulous solicitor.
I'm glad to see that microsoft have mellowed since Bill left since they seem ok with two unconnected rival law firms sharing their software, oh hang on a minute aren't they accusing us of sharing software?
Anybody help on the first two Q's

necromancer · #**498** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 12:41 PM

Thanks Beingscammed for that link. As you can see, apparently KaZaa was installed and it automatically adds files by default to the shared file folder so if you look at it that way they can't prove that someone intentionally distributed the file.

But my main point still is, why is it that people that didn't download the specific file or distributed it, are being accused of such thing? Shouldn't the law firms base their arguments on strong evidence before accusing someone?
Of course they should but they haven't.

hickster · #**499** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beingscammed

Good morning all. If you've got time to read this, your day might be a little brighter.
http://beckermanlegal.com/Lawyer_Cop...nessReport.pdf

Hi Beingscammed thanks for that. I am on Virgin Media and the IP Number on the letter sent to me is MY IP Number. I have a static CABLE modem connection. I did NOT download this file "Call of Juaerez" But how can I prove that when all i read is about wifi connections and non static IP addresses?

I am in a cycle of worried - NOT worried - worried - NOT worried. Arghhhhhh!

I have even run a search on my PC for any traces of this damned file and still found NOTHING. (I think I am having a low day)

Richie · #**500** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 02:23 PM

My ip is dynamic so not sure how that will play out..

Im the same always up and down and now getting to the point were I will go see the doctor and need now to hunt around for some sort of legal help because I'm thinking they want to win BADLY and want to make examples of people and I do not want to be a bastard statistic to them..seeing as I didn't infringe at all but proving so is hard seeing as the so called offense took place more than a year ago.

obviously me not being fairly clever with the way lawyers go on and no funds for a respected lawyer I'm more or less on the ropes for now but still holding out for certain things to develop more

Happy days...

beingscammed · #**501** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 02:24 PM

What's the point of rhetorical questions anyway?

beingscammed · #**502** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hickster

Hi Beingscammed thanks for that. I am on Virgin Media and the IP Number on the letter sent to me is MY IP Number. I have a static CABLE modem connection. I did NOT download this file "Call of Juaerez" But how can I prove that when all i read is about wifi connections and non static IP addresses?

I am in a cycle of worried - NOT worried - worried - NOT worried. Arghhhhhh!

I have even run a search on my PC for any traces of this damned file and still found NOTHING. (I think I am having a low day)

Hi Hickster,
I was wondering this myself for a while. Then I start reading about how if I'm logged off of my cable modem, and someone has "sniffed" my MAC address, they can use it to connect to my ISP, pretending to be me.
Analogy would be if you used a remote lock on your car, and as you were locking/unlocking it one morning someone recorded the frequency that you use, and when you're asleep they unlock your car using this recording and use it as they like. In our case, they would have been driving on the road, and the police think that there are people speeding on the road so they take photos of everyone driving on the road, and a year later they send you a fine saying "We can show that your car was driving on the road last year, and we know people were speeding so unless you pay us £655 within 21 days we'll take you to court and things will be much worse"

Richie · #**503** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 02:35 PM

lol I actually had to look up and see what rhetorical meant

Still none the wiser hahaha

Gopher04 · #**504** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 02:51 PM

Good day all, got a reply this morning from the Information Commissioners Office's:

Thank you for contacting the ICO, This letter is to confirm safe receipt of the imformation you sent us.

We will contact you again when your correspondence has been considered by a memeber of our customer service team. You will be proveided with a reference number and either provided with a response to all the matters you have raised or be told what will happen next.

Yours Sincerely

Front line Operations
The Information Commissioners Office.

saywhat · #**505** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie

My ip is dynamic so not sure how that will play out..

Im the same always up and down and now getting to the point were I will go see the doctor and need now to hunt around for some sort of legal help because I'm thinking they want to win BADLY and want to make examples of people and I do not want to be a bastard statistic to them..seeing as I didn't infringe at all but proving so is hard seeing as the so called offense took place more than a year ago.

obviously me not being fairly clever with the way lawyers go on and no funds for a respected lawyer I'm more or less on the ropes for now but still holding out for certain things to develop more

Happy days...

While some people continue to pay out because they are bullied into paying they have no need to take anyone to court it wouldnt make sense to do so, we seem to forget this.

If they get to the stage where the money dries up because people no longer give into this scam and defend themselves, at that point they may make a legal challange but only because they have nothing else to loose. I feel the same some days better than others I try not to let this bother me , but cant say it doesn't.

panther999 · #**506** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 03:31 PM

SOMEONE ON HERE SAID VIRGIN DONT NOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS SORRY TO INFORM YOU ALL DONT BOTHER RINGING THEM BECAUSE ALL THEY ARE SAYING IF SPEAK TO ACS LAW THEY DO NOW ABOUT THIS AND SAY THEY HAVE TO GIVE ARE DETAILS I THINK THIS IS ALL B/S AS THEY ARE BEING BULLED ASWELL AND NOT ASKING WHY AND THEY ARE NOT PROTECTING ARE PIVICY AT ALL SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS A WORLD WIDE PROBLEM AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED NOT ONLY IN THE UK BUT EVERYWHERE IF YOU FEEL AS STRONGLY AS I DO DONT PAY 1p LETS SEE HOW FAR THEY WILL GO I NOW HOW FAR I AM WILLING TO GO ALL THE WAY U CANT BE CONVITED ON AN IP ADDRESS THEY NEED PHYICAL PROOF LIKE GETTING YOUR HARDDRIVE AND I GUESS FROM MANY IF NOT ALL OF YOU THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE SO ALL I CAN SAY IS

ACS LAW YOUR WANT A FIGHT THEN A FIGHT YOU SHALL HAVE

panther999 · #**507** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 03:43 PM

Logistep Have Been Banned In There Own Country Swiss And Germany Italy France They Say They Have Proof You Have Done This No They Have Not . Not With Out Your Harddrive .reality Pump Sp.z.o.o Are The Same As Last Years Case That Bbc Watchdog Did A Story On All The Evidencd Points To A Big Scam I Have Been To The Papers Local Been On Local Radio Aswell Contaced My Mp Waiting To Speak To Him And Today Spoken To The Police Computer Faurd Team Waiting Now To Show Them What I Have Collected And See Wot They Say Make A Stand With Regards To Virgin Media They Would Be The 1st To Sent You A Letter Saying Stop Doing Download I Take It No1 Has Had Such A Letter From There Internet Provider Just Acs Law Demanding A Lot Of Money My Advice Is Stand Your Ground Dont Pay

Ps This Game That I Have Not Downloaded Called Two Worlds Like Many Other Have Suppossd To Have Downloaded I Have Not Not It As I Was Never Living At This Address In May Of Last Year Only Moved Here End Of September Last Year Think They Need To Get Facts Right

necromancer · #**508** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 05:05 PM

Well, since this is dated from last year, the supposed date when the file was downloaded and was made available for others to download, I was with a different ISP, Tesco and I also had a wireless router. I still have the router and the wireless network adapter downstairs in the garage.
I am now with Sky, and although I have a wireless router, I am not wirelessly connected.
Not very good for the Xbox lol. Better to connect directly.

Anyway, about the rethoric. Well I know it might confuse people even further but nevertheless it is wrong for these law firms to act like moneygrabbing aristocrats and that's why I pondered some of the questions.

Byebye

beingscammed · #**509** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panther999

I Was Never Living At This Address In May Of Last Year Only Moved Here End Of September Last Year Think They Need To Get Facts Right

Panther,
The address they quote is merely the address that they are corresponding with you now at. They never say that the offence took place at this address. Along with a lot of things they never actually say.

amubis · #**510** (**permalink**) 05-16-2009, 07:37 PM

The thing is guy what are we going to do ???? do we still send in the LOD letter. Im not a legal buff or anything and i expect most of us on here arnt either..all the talk of this and that is confusing me to hell. As stated by us all we didnt do it. So what do we do ???